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		<title>The Last Carry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a moment to realize that when you were a child your parents regularly carried you in their arms.  It was a part of your life so common as to be unnoticed. They picked you up and carried you into the house, they held you while you slept, and they laid you down in your [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Take a moment to realize that when you were a child your parents regularly carried you in their arms.  It was a part of your life so common as to be unnoticed.</p>
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<p>They picked you up and carried you into the house, they held you while you slept, and they laid you down in your bed.</p>
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<p>Now realize that on one particular day, that neither you nor your parent recognized, your parent picked you up and carried you for the very last time.  You probably do not remember the day when you last leaned your head into your parent’s shoulder as they held you but thinking on it today, you might wish that you did.</p>
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<p>If you have a child of your own remember that your last time to carry them is coming and appreciate holding your child today.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There is a last time for everything so use what little time you have.</p>
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		<title>Spanish Fencing &#8211; The Atajo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is an Atajo? To understand the Atajo it is useful to understand the primary causes that make it work. I&#8217;m intentionally going to present this from the perspective of a Pachequista (a follower of don Luis Pacheco).  Pacheco literally defined the fencing master&#8217;s examination in Spain so in this regard his work is &#8220;canonical&#8221;. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px;">What is an Atajo? </span>To understand the Atajo it is useful to understand the primary causes that make it work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m intentionally going to present this from the perspective of a Pachequista (a follower of don Luis Pacheco).  Pacheco literally defined the fencing master&#8217;s examination in Spain so in this regard his work is &#8220;canonical&#8221;.</p>
<h3>The Advantage of Downward Pressure</h3>
<p>If I extend my arm out toward you with the palm up and you press down while I resist you will probably be able to lower my arm.  The Spanish call this the superior nature of the natural movement (descending) versus the violent movement (rising).  Your own body also provides an advantage when you use your shoulder and body to assist in the motion to increase the downward force.</p>
<p><strong>Principle: </strong>If all other factors are equal a downward force will defeat an upwards resistance.</p>
<div id="attachment_1384" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 573px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/superior_natural.bmp"><img class="size-full wp-image-1384" style="border: 2px solid black;" title="Natural_beats_violent" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/superior_natural.bmp" alt="When two equal adversaries resist each other, gravity lends a hand." width="563" height="479" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When two equal adversaries resist each other, gravity lends a hand.</p></div>
<p style="text-align: center;">&nbsp;</p>
<h3>The Advantage of Degrees of Strength</h3>
<p>I have already written an article about blade mechanics, but every swordsman worth his or her salt should already know that in contact between two weapons, the swordsman with superior degrees of strength in the engagement has an advantage of power both offensively and defensively.</p>
<p><strong>Principle: </strong>When two swords oppose each other in an engagement, the weapon with greater degrees of strength is stronger and has an advantage.</p>
<div id="attachment_741" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/carranzas-degrees-of-strength.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-741 " style="border: 2px solid black;" title="Sword from Carranza Text" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/carranzas-degrees-of-strength-300x119.jpg" alt="Carranza labels the degrees of strength." width="300" height="119" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Carranza&#39;s degrees of strength showing higher values as stronger.</p></div>
<p>For more on strength in engagements consider this article:</p>
<p><strong><a title="Strength of the Weapon" href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/spanish-fencing-notation-part-5-strength-of-the-weapon/">Spanish Fencing Notation 5 &#8211; Strength of the Weapon</a></strong></p>
<h3>The Advantage of Time</h3>
<p>When two adversaries act against each other the swordsman who can finish execution sooner has an advantage in time.  The Spanish use <em>Movements</em> as a tool for understanding time.  When the adversary&#8217;s attack requires three movements, he can be defeated by a defense or counteroffense which uses a single movement.  In addition an engagement that completely closes a line can limit the adversary&#8217;s offensive options to ensure that the time advantage is maintained.</p>
<p><strong>Principle:</strong> A defensive action that requires a single movement can defeat an offensive action with more movements.</p>
<div id="attachment_1394" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_xi_opposition-to-the-reverse-in-the-middle.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1394 " style="border: 2px solid black;" title="ettenhard_xi_opposition-to-the-reverse-in-the-middle" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_xi_opposition-to-the-reverse-in-the-middle-300x270.jpg" alt="When the adversary attempts to strike with a circular reverse (3 movements) the defender answers with a thrust (1 movement)." width="300" height="270" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When the adversary attempts to strike with a circular reverse (3 movements) the defender answers with a thrust (1 movement).  (Ettenhard Plate 11)</p></div>
<p><strong>Principle:</strong> An engagement which prevents the adversary from attacking in a single motion provides a defensive advantage.</p>
<div id="attachment_1391" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_xv_form-of-the-atajo-in-the-middle.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1391 " style="border: 2px solid black;" title="ettenhard_xv_form-of-the-atajo-in-the-middle" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_xv_form-of-the-atajo-in-the-middle-300x187.jpg" alt="By closing the line, he forces the adversary into a time disadvantage. (Ettenhard Plate XV)" width="300" height="187" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">By closing the line, he forces the adversary into a time disadvantage. (Ettenhard Plate 15)</p></div>
<p>For more on Spanish Movements consider this article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-1-vector-notation/"><strong>Spanish Fencing Notation 1 &#8211; Vector Notation</strong></a></p>
<h3>Advantage by Domination of the Shortest Path</h3>
<p>The Spanish fencer starts with the arm extended and the weapon pointed at the adversary along the most direct path to the target.  Knowing that it is easier to push downward then to resist upward, I can use this principle to deny my adversary the shortest path to my body by pushing his blade down.  Not only do I increase the distance he must travel to strike my body, I also ensure that my offensive path is shorter and closer to the target.</p>
<p><strong>Principle: </strong>By starting with the arm extended along the shortest path to the adversary and then deviating the adversary&#8217;s weapon downward you ensure your own path to the target is shorter.</p>
<p><strong>Note: </strong>Deviating the opposing steel laterally would be called a <em>desvio</em><strong> </strong>or a deflection.</p>
<div id="attachment_1390" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_ix_opposition-of-angles.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1390 " style="border: 2px solid black;" title="ettenhard_ix_opposition-of-angles" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ettenhard_ix_opposition-of-angles-300x273.jpg" alt="The advantage of the shorter path (Ettenhard Plate 9 - Opposition of Angles)" width="300" height="273" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The advantage of the shorter path (Ettenhard Plate 9)</p></div>
<h3><strong>Atajo Defined</strong></h3>
<p>The Spanish Atajo unites all of these ideas into a single defensive action which can protect the swordsman while simultaneously providing opportunities and the place from which to strike with safety.  Offensively, the atajo can be used to prepare a safe attack that controls the adversary&#8217;s weapon.  (We would call this preparatory action &#8220;<em>dispositive</em>&#8220; and the attack &#8220;<em>executive</em>&#8220;.)</p>
<h4>Pacheco in <span style="color: #808080;">New Science </span>p.365 (1632)</h4>
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<td><em>&#8220;Atajo, according to our definition, is when one of the weapons is placed over the other (not in any of its extremes nor with any of its extremes) and with equal or some degree more of strength subjects it and makes it so that the technique that can be formed must be done with more movements and the participation of more angles than those that its simple nature requires.&#8221;</em></td>
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<p>~Translated by Mary Curtis</p>
<h4>Pacheco in <span style="color: #808080;">New Science </span>p.368 (1632)</h4>
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<td><em>&#8220;Arriving, then, to the perfect formation of the atajo, it should necessarily consist of three movements: violent, offline lateral and natural. With the first the sword that should subject is placed on a superior plane to the other, with the second it is placed transversal over it, and with the last it subjects it:&#8221;</em></td>
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<p>~Translated by Mary Curtis</p>
<h4>Ettenhard in his <span style="color: #808080;">Compendium and Foundations&#8230;</span> p.154-155 (1675)</h4>
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<td><em>&#8220;I am very safely confident that one will have recognized with enough satisfaction that the Atajo causes its effects by means of a superior graduation and of the superior power of the Natural Movement and also that one will concede to me that if it were possible to beat and destroy these two causes, we would see dispelled the end of such superior effects&#8230;&#8221;</em></td>
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<p>~Translated by Mary Curtis</p>
<div id="attachment_1401" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/atajo_03.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1401" title="atajo_03" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/atajo_03-300x200.jpg" alt="Eric places an Atajo over Kevins sword." width="300" height="200" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Eric places an Atajo over Kevin&#39;s sword. (Click for larger image)</p></div>
<h4>The Defining Elements of Atajo</h4>
<p>Between Pacheco and Ettenhard we find these three items essential in placing Atajo:</p>
<ul>
<li>Subjection with <strong>equal or greater degrees of strength</strong>.</li>
<li>The subjection is placed from <strong>above</strong>.</li>
<li>The subjected line is closed so that an <strong>adversary cannot strike with a single movement.</strong></li>
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<p>When Lorenz de Rada writes later, he adapts the atajo so that you initially seek the subjection from above and if you don&#8217;t find it or feel that the adversary is weak in the engagement you immediately spiral towards the opposing steel and closing the opposite line from below.   Compare this to the classical transports of 3rd and 4th from high to low or the corresponding half-circular parries from high to low.</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>This information tells us that Pacheco&#8217;s Atajo should start by seeking the superior line with greater degrees of strength in the weapon.  The defensive action subjects downward to lengthen the adversary&#8217;s path to the target while ensuring your own path is shorter. It might be tempting to equate Atajo with classical engagements but this violates the primary causes of Atajo.  Likewise, by definition two swordsmen cannot both have an Atajo simultaneously.</p>
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		<title>Destreza Videos &#8211; Pacheco and the Vulgars</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a class I taught at the Western Martial Arts Workshop in 2009 based on Pacheco&#8217;s vulgar techniques from New Science. Part I: The introduction includes: Blade mechanics Stance Movements Part II: Includes: Three Universal Methods of Defense Right Angle Atajo Conclusion Footwork &#160; Part III: Includes material from Pacheco&#8217;s New Science #17 Gaining in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a class I taught at the <a title="WMAW" href="http://www.wmaw.us/">Western Martial Arts Workshop</a> in 2009 based on Pacheco&#8217;s vulgar techniques from <strong>New Science</strong>.</p>
<h3>Part I:</h3>
<p>The introduction includes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Blade mechanics</li>
<li>Stance</li>
<li>Movements</li>
</ul>
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<h3>Part II:</h3>
<p>Includes:</p>
<ul>
<li>Three Universal Methods of Defense
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<li>Right Angle</li>
<li>Atajo</li>
<li>Conclusion</li>
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<li>Footwork</li>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>Part III:</h3>
<p>Includes material from Pacheco&#8217;s <strong>New Science</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>#17 Gaining in the Air (p. 621-624)</li>
<li>#3 <em>Botonazo</em> (p. 586-587)</li>
<li>The General Technique called &#8220;<em>Estrechar</em>&#8221; (Narrowing) (p. 450-454)</li>
</ul>
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<h3>Part IV:</h3>
<p>Includes material from Pacheco&#8217;s <strong>New Science</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>(Continued) The General Technique called &#8220;<em>Estrechar</em>&#8221; (Narrowing) (p. 450-454)</li>
<li>#4 The Passata Sotto (p. 587-589)</li>
<li>Line in Cross (p. 447- 450)</li>
</ul>
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<p><span style="font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold;">Part V:</span></p>
<p>Includes material from Pacheco&#8217;s <strong>New Science</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>#4 The Passata Sotto (p. 587-589)</li>
<li>Estrechar (Narrowing) (p. 450-454)</li>
</ul>
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<h3>Final Notes:</h3>
<p>There is another video available on YouTube From the SCA&#8217;s Known World Academy of the Rapier 2007 and I have a blog article for it here with comments concerning the techniques and the source texts.</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="KWAR Destreza Video" href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/06/destreza-teaching-video/">Link to previous video</a></li>
</ul>
<p>You can find a series of Articles on Spanish Fencing Notation here:</p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-1-vector-notation/">LINK TO ARTICLE 1</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-2-footwork-and-the-circle/">LINK TO ARTICLE 2</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-3-fighting-distance/">LINK TO ARTICLE 3</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/spanish-fencing-notation-part-4-the-position-of-the-hand/">LINK TO ARTICLE 4</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/spanish-fencing-notation-part-5-strength-of-the-weapon/">LINK TO ARTICLE 5</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/category/fencing/historical_fencing/destreza/">ALL DESTREZA RELATED ARTICLES</a></strong></em></p>
<p>~P.</p>
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		<title>Destreza &#8211; Choosing a Weapon for the Spanish Tradition</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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Choose a blade no more than 41.1 inches from cross to tip.</strong></p>
<p>According to the canonical authors, the length of the weapon should be <strong>no longer</strong> than 5/4 <a title="The Vara discussed on Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_customary_units">vara</a>.    That&#8217;s an upper limit just a bit over 41 inches.</p>
<h4>Philip II&#8217;s Law on Blade Length</h4>
<div>What happens when you exceed that limit?  You are sent to prison by order of <a title="Philip II on Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Spain">King Philip II</a> on the first offense and exiled for a year on the second offense.</div>
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<div id="attachment_1334" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 178px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/phillip_ii_armored.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1334 " title="Phillip II" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/phillip_ii_armored-168x300.jpg" alt="Philip II" width="168" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Philip II</p></div>
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<div><strong><a title="Philip II on Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Spain">Philip II</a> in 1564 (translated by Mary Curtis):</strong></div>
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<td><em>That we are informed that in the said cities, villages, and places some swords, verdugos and estocs are carried of more than six and seven and eight palms and from there above in length, from which cause many inconveniences and deaths of men have resulted and continue to result, and wanting to provide a remedy to this, discussed in our council and with us consulted, it was agreed that we should order this our letter to be issued for you for the stated reason, and we considered it as good. Because of this, we order and command that now and from here forward, after fifteen days counted from the day of the publication of this our letter, no one of whatever quality and condition that he might be should dare to carry nor will carry the said swords, verdugos nor estocs of greater than<strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"> five fourths of vara of blade in length</span></strong>, under penalty that he who carries it falls and incurs for the first time in penalty of ten ducats and ten days in jail and loss of that estoc, verdugo, or sword, and for the second the penalty is doubled and one year of exile from the city, village, or place where he is taken and was neighbor&#8230;</em></td>
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<h4>Pacheco de Narváez&#8217;s Preference on Blade Length</h4>
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<div id="attachment_1338" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 166px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/narvaez_2in.gif"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1338" title="Pacheco de Narvaez" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/narvaez_2in.gif" alt="Pacheco" width="156" height="205" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Pacheco de Narvaez</p></div>
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<p>Later, Luis Pacheco de Narváez directly cites Philip&#8217;s law in his books.</p>
<div><strong>Pacheco de Narváez <em>New Science</em> p. 250 (translated by Mary Curtis) tells us this:</strong></div>
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<td><em>From these and other injuries our King and Lord Philip, Second in name and First in religion and prudence (whose happy memory in these glorious attributes will live in the most extended posterity of men), wanted to free them, justly and compassionately, with paternal love prohibiting under precept and force of law that any of his vassals carry sword, verdugo or estoc, of more blade than <strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">five fourths of vara</span></strong>, superior reason he achieved for this establishment, and if it were as justifiable for us to investigate it, as the obligation of obeying it, we would dare to say, that knowing for the organization, symmetry, and composure of the man (leaving the extremes of high and low) that his common stature is two varas in length, like he also has them from the extreme of one hand to the other, the arms open, and that in this all natural is in potential and diffuse action the strength of the parts that constitute him, unless the ones to the others their similar ones, they can communicate what they receive, and that from the left shoulder to the extremity of the right hand there are five fourths, he wanted for universal good that the swords were of this length, knowing that if they exceeded this, it would not be powerful the vigor sent to move them with the suitable quickness; and thus this very wise Prince looked for a proportion so proportionate that one will not find another more proportionate.</em></td>
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<p><span>In the seventeenth century, Pacheco de Narváez echoes the sentiments of Philip II in recommending a blade no more than 5/4 varas. </span></p>
<h4>Pacheco de Narvaez&#8217;s Opinions on Longer Blades</h4>
<p>Knowing that Pacheco de Narváez advocates a blade no longer than 5/4 vara, does he consider it important? If you use a longer weapon against someone using a proper sword, it offends Pacheco de Narváez, and he has some harsh things to say.</p>
<div><strong>Pacehco de Narváez&#8217;s <em>New Science</em> p.248-249 (translated by Mary Curtis)</strong></div>
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<td><em>The affection of our desire will remain offended and with just reason upset if we lose the opportunity of attempting the inconvenient reform of an ancient error introduced in men, about whom without exceeding the limits of modesty one can speak with all contempt, and in others, that all the terms that human courtesy have discovered do not equal its quality and merits. This is the exorbitant excess in the quantity and length of the swords, so much that changing the gender from feminine to masculine, requires it to be called estoc, or with a word of less nobility verdugo, from the problems that are offered, some are related to and offend the reputation and others offer manifest dangers. Firstly, it is known that no one ever spoke with venerable respect nor did the valor remain very esteemed of he who with advantageous weapons attacked his opponent in a forewarned or casual fight. From the fifth generation passes his memory and easy cause provokes, so that in absence or present they give him in the face with the ugliness of this injury. The greatest friend fails to rise in his defense and with honorable respects is ashamed to promote his credit. He who is not a friend speaks with indignity and discourtesy, and the neutral person is inclined toward kindness and compassion for he who suffered with the unequal instrument, without placing the misfortune of the case to the charge of not knowing. If the cause is deduced to judgment, the right makes the guilt worse and with just indignation increases the sentence and punishment, and in taking this into account, competing with time and forgetfulness endures this new word &#8211; fraud, disparaging insult with which the people discredit the one who with effeminate spirit does not dare to confront another man without the advantageous disparity that the estoc has in length over the sword. With similar events it comes to mind and renews resentment, and those who deserve praise detest and condemn it again&#8230;&#8221;</em></td>
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<p>To summarize, blades longer than 5/4 vara:</p>
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<li>Are offensive, immodest, excessive, and contemptible.</li>
<li>Will damage your own reputation by decreasing the perception of your valor for 5 generations.</li>
<li>Cause friends to be too ashamed to speak on your behalf, enemies to disparage you, and neutral parties to favor your adversary.</li>
<li>In losing, having chosen a longer weapon will cause your guilt to be worsened and the sentence and punishment is increased (judicially speaking).</li>
<li>Cause you to be viewed as effeminate for not confronting your adversary on equal terms.</li>
<li>Are regarded by the the people who are praiseworthy as detestable, and they condemn it.</li>
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<p>He also goes on about how shorter blades and lighter blades are better for reacting to the adversary and more macho.  Practically speaking, the blade should be able to deliver powerful cuts but still be light enough to change direction quickly.</p>
<p>My own opinion is that in an engagement of the weapons, it is useful to be able to cross and uncross your arms as well.  To see what I mean carry your sword over your left arm and then grab a friend&#8217;s doublet with your left hand.  Uncross your arms to bring your point in line with your friend&#8217;s chest.  This is easier when the blade is shorter and a sidesword fills the role nicely.</p>
<h4>Other Authors</h4>
<div id="attachment_741" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/carranzas-degrees-of-strength.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-741" title="Sword from Carranza Text" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/carranzas-degrees-of-strength-300x119.jpg" alt="Sword from Carranza Text" width="300" height="119" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Sword from Carranza&#39;s Text</p></div>
<p>The weapon images in the texts of Carranza (1569) and Pacheco de Narváez (1600 &#8211; approx. 1630s) show us swords that look different from the long slender rapiers in Thibault. At least in the time period of Carranza and possibly Pacheco de Narváez as well &#8220;Spanish rapier&#8221; isn&#8217;t a precise description of what I would personally consider an edge sword or side sword if you prefer.</p>
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<dt class="wp-caption-dt"><a href="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mdp_equal_swords.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-652 " title="Image from Pacheco de Narvaez" src="http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mdp_equal_swords.jpg" alt="Image from Pacheco de Narvaez" width="300" height="177" /></a></dt>
<p>Swords from Pacheco de Narvaez&#8217;s Text</p>
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<p>Even as late as Francisco Lórenz de Rada&#8217;s work in the late 1600s and early 1700s, 5/4 vara is the maximum length.  That being said, <a title="Girard Thibault on Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girard_Thibault">Girard Thibault</a>&#8216;s work is outside the Spanish canon so if you are interested primarily in Thibault, exceeding 5/4 vara might be acceptable.</p>
<h4>Science versus Specific Tradition</h4>
<p>Destreza theory is a science which can describe all types of martial arts.  The Spanish tradition of swordplay is what is most often described with this science.  We must not confuse the science with the specific practice of the art.  Pacheco de Narváez and Carranza practice the Spanish tradition, and we can describe this with Destreza fencing theory, but that science is also used as a tool for analyzing Italian fencing and other forms as well.</p>
<p>While Pacheco de Narváez and the other authors recommend a sword of 5/4 vara or less for the martial tradition, Destreza doesn&#8217;t recognize a limit on weapon size from the perspective of the science.  The montante and other weapons will obviously surpass this value, and Destreza still applies.</p>
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